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Originally Posted by syrox
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Yes.
It may be hard to believe, but soon choose not to join AM for reasons. It should be obvious based on the apparent low bar, based on some members I've met.
Personally, joining along with a force that's killed a mob a thousand times for yet another kill is rather banal. Classic for me is figuring out strategies, trying, and failing until we succeed. Spending the day doing Zlandi in a new way was pretty interesting. If I were in AM's position that day, it would have been clear to me that I was in the wrong raid force, for my preference. I enjoy the challenge, which for me is most similar to being in my all-server-first guild on live.
I understand these mobs have all been killed before. They're new to our force. It's exciting. And does AM only award dkp on kills? I know awakened awards on losses and awards hourly for long raids. Its kinda standard.
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I can't imagine a "lower bar" than "no requirements at all" that Lord Bob / Venerate requires.
11 page thread summarization -- Cryjal made a big stink about how ONLY his clusterfuck alliance should be the "server pug".. Every other guild on the server agrees, Cryjal insists he wants MORE in turn for not competing on mobs he can't win without self-imposed lockouts from Aftermath. Aftermath just trying to do fun shit with the server. Sirken says tough titties lil boyo remember that time I didn't permaban you for that scumbag shit at vulak? we're doing the crawl.
Raid mobs killed by Lord Bob alliance that were not under Aftermath self-imposed lockout timer: Zero.