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Originally Posted by wtsgoodtime
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These are the types of situations that would be nice to have clarified in the formal server rules.
Does it matter if indoor or outdoor? Does it matter if named or not?
I for one would just prefer to just play nice and use common sense, but when confronted over something like this, I'd like to know the rules.
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This is not the first post like this here, and it certainly won't be the last. Personally I think posts like these are a side effect of two problems:
- some of the actual P99 rules are never published
- the rules which are published exist in several different places
Even leaving out the raid rules, P99 currently has five published rules pages:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=159515
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=132299
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=211699
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=2651
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=1057
That can't be helping people learn the rules here ... but even if they did read all of those posts they still wouldn't know some important server rules.
Now I understand why the staff doesn't want to publish "the real rules": they want (and, I'd argue,
need) the freedom to make rulings on the fly ... but I still feel like there's a potential happy medium possible where they publish the real rules but still leave some details (eg. specific camps) unspecified so that they aren't constrained in their rulings.
Camps are a perfect example: there are the rules as published (in however many different places), and there are the actual rules. The actual rules are:
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Originally Posted by Loramin
Outdoor Zones*: You can "camp" one mob, IF you wait at its spawn point and IF you kill both it and its placeholders in a timely fashion. You can camp more than one mob if you want, but if someone else shows up and wants to share you each get a single spawn point (as the person who was there first you get to pick which one).
Everything* in an outdoor zone that isn't explicitly coming from a camped spawn point is FTE (First to Engage). In other words, whoever agroes the mob first gets it.
Indoor Zones*: Similar to outdoor zones, but you usually can camp multiple mobs; instead of a single spawn point you typically use line of sight to decide where one person's camp stops and another's starts.
*: There are exceptions to both of the above. One obvious exception is raid mobs, which have their own set of rules. There are others though, like the two spawn point camp for the Goblin Ghazugi Ring: I believe most GMs won't force you to share those two spawn points, but there's no way to know for sure until someone petitions you.
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P99 could still make the rules so much clearer by:
- having a single rules page
- including all of the "real" server rules (but not a specific camp list) in that document
I would be more than happy to do the work of trying to create that document IF it was desired, but unfrotunately for now the status quo of five documents with parts of the rules left out
seems to be what the staff wants.