[Sonderbeast]

As an outside observer here is what I can comment on.

CSG needs to recognize they are a top level guild contesting end game content. You are not casual if you are contesting mobs in NToV. Paradox was casual, Dawn Believers is casual, you are not. Recognize that because it is holding you back, if you want instances content then go to Agnarr. Many of my friends are having a great time there and luclin just came out. You can't play the casual card anymore, let's be honest.

On the other hand A/A need to also acknowledge this and include them on their rotation along with the PS/Kitten alliance and BG/Ano alliance (which it seems to some extent they do) and even the up and coming Ven/TSS alliance. They don't have the experience of the seasoned A teams but they have had more and more of a presence in ToV and they want their shot too. A/A will eat more long term bans over careless stuff like this as time progresses and these other "b" guilds begin to step up their game. Better to just agree to put certain targets on rotation now and get it once or twice a month rather than continue to cycle your bans and only be able to play for 6 months out of the year.

Furthermore, play nice. Guilds need diplomats, not raging wyverens rampaging each other. If your guild leader/officers can't hold an adult conversation about what happened then you need to begin delegating negotiations to players who can (It helps your guild image and improves recruitment in the long run).

Also, WTOV Friday get some!