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Originally Posted by loramin
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I'm saying none of those things.
In general statistics overwhelmingly show that owning a gun does not make you or your family safer. While I don't remember the exact numbers, your chance of protecting yourself against the bad guys does go up by say 10% (or whatever the chance is you'll have your gun ready when you need it, will fire more accurately than the bad guys, etc.)
But, the chance of you even being in a situation where a gun would be relevant are already pretty slim, so really that doesn't increase your safety much at all. However, the chance of you committing suicide goes up, the chance a family member committing suicide goes up, the chance your kid will accidentally shoot someone (or themselves) goes up, etc. and when you add those together you are much less safe.
What I'm saying is that society's resources, including not just police protection but also fire protection, school funding, etc. should all be distributed equally. However (because they tend to be based on property taxes) we instead give the best society has to offer to the rich, the worst we can possibly give without feeling too bad to the poor, and then we wonder why the people who get so much less from society AND started off with so much less in the first place do so much worse.
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you're missing the point though. Up until this broadcast the narritive literally both from the campaign trail straight from Hillaries mouth, was that illegal immigrants do not commit more crimes than non illegal immigrants.
However this study proves that they VASTLY commit more crime than non illegal immigrants or native born citizens.
1. you seem to make up a lot of excuses for reasons why people commit crime but leave out a lot as well.
a. you dont even consider that crime in the country someone is fleeing from having a single iota of effect on said persons ability to justify crime, you blame americans.
b. you dont even consider the fact that the cartel has a large investment in human trafficking because it is so easy to bring illegals in this country and brings not only illegal immigrants over the boarder but surounds them with crime.. agian, instead, you blame americans.
2. You suggest spreading fire and police protection and school funding, but as I have said multiple times, that is NOT the idiology of the people you want to elect. Theirs is one of social change, not economic. Look at democrat run cities all over the country, NY, LA, all of them have worse if not the same crime ratios in poor minority neighborhoods than conservative run cities.
a. if you want to support economic change in these cities then support the police, instead of suggesting that they are murderers.
b. you support changing social constructs, not any of what you suggested above. Infact, if you go through this thread youll see that what you suggest above is what I have been suggesting as a solution to gun violence in this country since the get go.
c. The left wants to sevearly limit the police's ability to stop crime in these areas as well, activists and establishemnt elected officials support BLM which wants to hinder the police's abillity to do what you suggest, I believe even YOU support BLM which is totally contrary to what you suggest in the above post.
no, loramin, what you are saying is that minorities comit more crime because there is a lack of investment in them, and that if we invested more in minorities they would stop commiting crime.
The irony is, by saying that, you are saying that Trump was right when he said they were bringing over rapists and murderers. Something that these statistics prove.
So thanks for the shout out to the god emp. He is right as usual.