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Old 12-15-2017, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
its because we didn't have net neutrality for 30 years and isp's never censored anything without a court order
First, we did in a sense. There was a bit of a regulatory cold war. The short of it is that the law was somewhat ambiguous and most carriers were unwilling to skirt the line because that could trigger a court battle which would define where the line actually was. They stood to lose a lot, so the threat of the FCC's hammer coming down was generally enough to keep the status quo. There were still plenty of violations though.

As Sage mentioned, this changed majorly in 2014 with the Verizon suit.

Here's a few of the major violations of NN principles compiled courtesy of Reddit user /u/Skrattybones:

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2005 - Madison River Communications was blocking VOIP services. The FCC put a stop to it.

2005 - Comcast was denying access to p2p services without notifying customers.

2007-2009 - AT&T was having Skype and other VOIPs blocked because they didn't like there was competition for their cellphones.

2011 - MetroPCS tried to block all streaming except youtube. They actually sued the FCC over this.

2011-2013, AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon were blocking access to Google Wallet because it competed with their bullshit. This one happened literally months after the trio were busted collaborating with Google to block apps from the android marketplace.

2012, Verizon was demanding google block tethering apps on android because it let owners avoid their $20 tethering fee. This was despite guaranteeing they wouldn't do that as part of a winning bid on an airwaves auction. (edit: they were fined $1.25million over this)

2012, AT&T - tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money.

2013, Verizon literally stated that the only thing stopping them from favoring some content providers over other providers were the net neutrality rules in place.
So, yes, it's already happened.

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maybe you're being ran on a treadmill with a carrot dangling infront of your face because there shouldn't be a telco monopoly to begin with? maybe what you really want is trust busting?
Possibly. Monopolies tend to be tolerated when they provide value and essential service. That tolerance is granted in exchange for heavy oversight given how essential the service is. The problem we have now is that ISPs are beginning to form a vertical monopoly like Standard Oil did under Rockefeller. They not only control the means of distribution, they have a stake in its production and consumption as well. This is basic economics, and these types of monopolies are incredibly dangerous to the general public.
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