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Old 12-14-2017, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Wow, it's not often that I find myself arguing against a conservative on the side of causing military casualties! But you're taking a very narrow view if you think the atom bomb only cost the lives of the people of Hiroshima/Nagasaki with no benefit. Had we not dropped the bomb we still would have won the war, but both sides would have lost a ton more people (more than the bombs took).

And that's just USA vs. Japan ... when Japan wasn't even our real audience, the USSR was. Without the atom bomb it's very likely that WW3, between us and the commies, would have followed not too long after WW2. The only reason we had the cold war instead (which certainly cost lives, but nowhere near as many as a "hot" war) was because of the atom bomb.

(And even with it we still almost had WW3 anyway: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov)

Oh and women getting equal treatment under the law to men is going to "ruin the world"? Hyperbolize much?
Except that Stalin never wanted to export the revolution and china was against the USSR for a very long time

Also, MAD applied without a demonstration on cities

Finally, Russia, like the soviets before them, could never match western economics and needed nukes to even the stakes. In short, stick to arguments about feminism
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