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Old 12-04-2017, 01:38 PM
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are you suggesting that we can't rely on a single metric to value an individual's worth!? ^^

i actually tohhhhhtally agree. IQ has nothing to do with work ethic and perhaps much more interestingly research has shown that neither is it correlated with skepticism. That combined with a natural arrogance fostered by being smarter than everyone else is why smart people can be as easily mired in ideologically driven untruth as anyone else.

That does not discount the consequences of low IQ though and the ability to learn, which is exceptionally more problematic in advanced societies most especially with an automated revolution on the horizon. IQ is more closely correlated with success in western societies than hardwork by a factor of 2!
Fun fact: IQ was never designed to measure the intelligence of normal people. I did my high school senior thesis as a nerdy kid with a high IQ believing in the concept of IQ. By the end of it I realized that the word "intelligence", as it's often used, depended heavily on the person using the term. Most people use it to refer to "g" or "general" (all around) intelligence ... which doesn't exist.

The whole point of IQ tests originally were just to determine which people were mentally handicapped . Even the guy who invented the IQ test (Lewis Terman who, incidentally, was the father of the guy who started Silicon Valley) said that we shouldn't use it for anything else. But people did, even though it would later be determined that we have at least 7 (or more, there's disagreement) types of intelligence. There's mathematical intelligence, spacial intelligence, verbal intelligence, musical intelligence, etc. and there is no strong correlation connecting them all together.

As a result the idea of a single "g" intelligence has more or less been debunked, which in turn debunks the idea that you can measure such a "g" intelligence. In other words, there are no "smart" people, just people who are smart about different things, and any given person might have any combination of "smarts" because the different kinds mostly don't correlate. Now that's not to say that intelligence tests don't measure something, because they clearly do, but whatever they measure it's a certain subset of the many different intelligences, and which ones are included and to what degree depend largely on the person writing test.
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