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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like I said before, you can say "this stuff is hard to fix I give up", or you can say "it's hard to fix but it's worth trying even so."

Not sure why you'd characterize what I said as giving up. My point is don't make matters worse by doubling down on what we know causes more racial tension. We need to work towards improving the problems in our societies.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also I think you're vastly over-imagining "more likely to get the dog harmed or killed". The violent crime rate is like 386 in 100,000 (ie. less than one in a thousand), and your own risk is likely far lower because those victims are disproportionately poor/minority, and include rape victims which are disproportionately female.

Well, yea.. But I care about the safety of the poor and women.

People who live in a swply city neighborhood in a gated community aren't affected nearly as much. We're very progressive and ostensibly love the swarthy minorities, yet they are nowhere to be seen outside of the street with taxpayer-subsidized low-income housing. Try to think about the middle and working class people living in diverse areas where they are more likely to fall victim to cultural enrichment. Would you really want to untrain their pattern recognition that keeps them out of harms way?

Btw, those numbers ("less than one in a thousand") are off by an order of magnitude.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"among homicides reported to the FBI for which the victim-offender relationship was known ... 73% and 79% were committed by offenders known to the victims", So you're looking at only some of 1/4 in 10,000.

TLDR; Even if some minorities have been shown to have a greater rate of violence (a natural consequence of their disproportionate historical poor treatment), there still is no meaningful difference to your safety from not being a racist.

Let's assume, as you said, 70%+ of homicides were committed by offenders known to the victim. Members of a certain demographic, which is only 5% of the total US population, commits nearly 50% of the murders. Do you really want more people to get to know that 5%? Changing the majority population's aversion to that 5% is well... rather evil. Even if their ancestors did historically treat minorities poorly, there is no justice in punishing people who aren't responsible for the bad decisions.