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Originally Posted by loramin
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Where do you get this from? Not the part about how being against traditional feminism is like being against theft (100% agree), but the parts about how modern feminism "shames femininity by insisting non-feminine traits are more praiseworthy than feminine ones" or that "feminism in its current form is a glorification of dominance, aggression and violence."
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im not confident in my ability to communicate this in a way that makes sense to you. I think you are probably better equipped to figure it out than i am to explain it ^^;
Let's start with a few questions:
1. what are feminine traits?
2. what are masculine traits?
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People seem to have a lot of crazy ideas about what feminism is, and I blame TV. There are a lot of people claiming a lot of things on TV, and the people who make TV showcase the people with the most extraordinary claims because it makes for better ratings ("sensationalism"). So if you watch only cable news and think the people Fox and CNN choose to represent feminism you could easily get a distorted view.
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i don't have cable television. the information that I consider comes from a variety of sources, none of which i visit habitually. if you would liek to point me to some of your preferred resources, I'll have a look at them ^^
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But if you look at actual feminist activism, and I mean the mainstream stuff (eg. Planned Parenthood supporters not the fringe weirdos who say crazy stuff like "all sex is rape"), I don't see any of what you're talking about. I was fairly involved in feminism at an extremely liberal college (basically the movie PCU was based on us and Berkeley). There was nothing about feminine traits being more praiseworthy (although there certainly was some "hey these male traits have had an oversized influence on our society for a long time, maybe we should value some of the more feminine traits that we haven't traditionally valued?"). And there was certainly nothing about the "glorification of dominance, aggression and violence".
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right on. it's not an overt advocacy for those things. if it were, most of the people who throw their support behind it would walk away. However, intent often fails to align with results. For example, a child might want to eat sugary treats every meal of every day even though they do not want cavities. similarly an addict may prefer to overindulge in certain stimuli even though they might not desire the accompanying costs in other areas of their life.
"The path to hell is paved with good intentions." as they say, or however that phrase goes. I'm not the greatest fan of proverbs (o^^o)
i would encourage you to consider the rest of my post though, because even though the particular excerpt you quoted is of interest to you, the latter part of that post is much more useful because it is broadly applicable ^^