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Originally Posted by loramin
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"Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence." Honestly I thought my posts did respond to your's.
Did you not say:
er ... well ... I guess not, because now that post has been edited to instead say:
... which is what I was arguing (that the best way to fight discrimination is through thought leadership).
However I promise that if you tell me which point I'm not responding to (and then don't change it) I'll do my best to honestly respond to it.
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I didn't change it, it's still there with both of those excerpts back on page 4, post 39:
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Originally Posted by maskedmelon
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identity politics and minority activism in America is a perfect example of fabricated struggle to restore some measure of the purpose civilization has denied each of us. If you're able to find purpose in subordinating various groups and then fighting fictitious battles on their behalf, more power to you, but it is no less deluded than worshiping a supernatural bean. Neither is anything more than assignation of one's grief to fictitious sources. it's a retreat to fantasy from the assault of reality.
man has no worth, no use, no purpose other than the one he elects for himself. stop fucking with others and assume responsibility for making yourself happy and if you can't, make someone else happy.
you think women are insufficiently compensated in the workplace? start a business and pay them what you feel is right. You think its wrong to abort unwanted pregnancies? start a non-profit and popularize the idea. You think discrimination leads disproportionate numbers of blacks to prison? Adopt black children. You think people should be compelled to use restrooms based on their sex chromosomes? Build restrooms protected by check stations. you think everyone should be entitled to free and equal healthcare? find a stranger and pay for theirs. you think various races are inferior to one another? write a book.
All of that would require WORK though, REAL sacrifice. No, I think I'll just use my blue pen in this box to compel others to do what I want, or maybe I'll go to church and "give my problems to god," or maybe i'll stand outside places I disagree with holding signs to deny patrons and owners happiness, because at the end of the day it doesn't matter if i accomplish anything other than validating my own meaningless existence with simple low-effort placating of conscience. shared delusion is most comforting delusion.
*sorry, this has nothing to do with sandwiches. i'll try to catch up entirely before forming thoughts in the future.
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perhaps this sheds some light on why, I haven't been making sense ^.~
In any case, I wouldn't continue talking with you for several pages about adopting children if I didn't say it. ^^ That's not the issue.
The issue is more one of "one vs. all."
Reading back through my posts I can see why I wasn't making sense. I was being too indirect in an attempt to be as concise as possible. i fail miserably at summarizing, but will try here again:
I am suggesting that a person can cause certain decrease in total discrimination by eliminating it for [/i]individuals[/i] (not all individuals, just the one(s) you adopt and only for a time).
You have been arguing against mass adoptions to end all racism or racial problems.
So to hopefully put to rest that proposition against which you have been arguing, I TOTALLY agree that mass adopting all black children to white families or any other families is neither sensible nor practical. it is not an antidote to racism and is not something that i advocate.
However,
if you, as a person (your race doesn't matter, you can be red or brown or orange or yellow or pink or black or teal or whatever), believe that blacks suffer disproportionate discrimination, you can decrease the total amount of discrimination by eliminating it for one person (for a time) by adopting a child. In your home, the child would not experience discrimination. You could choose who they associated with, which schools they attended and the media they consumed and they would have no inkling of discrimination.
On top of not having to grow up with discrimination (which is perhaps the most damaging aspect due to complexes that can arise out of it), THEY will be empowered to succeed in spite of it. You'll not have slain the phantom of discrimination, but you'll have changed one person's life.