The only other guild on that server to defeat the ring prior to us took over five years after first entering ntov and were in elemental gear or better.
Needless to say a bunch of us p99er's beat that content a couple months after forming Tse as we were simultaneously progressing thru luclin and pop.
Not sure why you have disdain for P99 players (maybe a side affect of being in taken so long)I have always sought and found out top tier gamers to kill stuff with no matter which server.
If you played on eqmac you would know about the mechanics and old school damage tables for meelee and spells that would make that server much different than servers available now.
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/n...72900317032965
Have you ever killed vulak ring?