I'm not sure how efficacious it is in a discussion on animal rights to indulge Raev in his desire to push an agenda of separation. Our conversations should focus on inclusion, on what makes us the same, human and non-human alike. I appreciate Csihar's willingness to meet others where they are, but you're in the weeds here. This tangent doesn't belong any more than the abortion spiel. This kind of diversionary tactic is very common. Better to keep people on-topic when they're so obviously trying to squirm away like this.
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