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Old 10-30-2017, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Since you did not mention the health effects of eating meat anywhere in that long post I'm going to assume you don't have anything.

Anyway, I think you are conflating industrial agriculture with meat consumption. I grew up in Iowa. On the way to the nearest city I would drive by one farmer who raised cows in their own feces.
I lived in Des Moines for seven years. It's the only actual city in Iowa, and the whole place smells like boiled pig flesh for the entire month of August. Who do you think you're kidding? And of course they don't put feedlots on highways. They grow corn in highly-trafficked areas because it's a much better visual. Of course the vast majority of corn in Iowa is grown to feed industrial livestock operations elsewhere. So it's all connected and it's only our myopia which prevents from seeing that.

But you want a health-related fact? I mean, your request was completely scatter-shot so I just posted some devastating environmental facts but uh, let's talk heart disease. Let's talk clogged arteries. This happens due to the accumulation of cholesterol. This kind of cholesterol is only contained in the cell-walls of animals. Nowhere else. Humans have no way to metabolize it, so it leeches into our bloodstream and eventually collects in our hearts. It contributes to a condition that kills us MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE and it only gets in our bodies by consuming animal products. If we are talking nutrition, shouldn't we start by eliminating things that kill us? Not convinced consuming animal products is a driver of heart disease. Well, wanna talk about cancer--the number two killer of our people? I mean, everyone knows the World Health Organization has classified bacon as a carcinogen on the same level as cigarettes, right? Right?

Anyway, I think it's disingenuous in 2017 to claim the consumption of animal products is in any way part of a healthy lifestyle, either for yourself or the planet. We know better, but we are all simply struggling to make choices we can live with, some motivated by ethics, some motivated by convenience, some by pleasure, some by fear of social rejection. I simply believe we are capable of evolving to do much, much better, because I see it happening. Namasté.
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