I feel like I needed to break down your post one-by-one, and offer rebuttals. So here we go:
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Originally Posted by loramin
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many people want a fair GM-enforced mechanism that prioritizes the people who most deserve the spawn to get it.
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Will never happen because there is no way to truly prioritize "who most deserve."
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Originally Posted by loramin
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Because of this, any agreement whatsoever has to be opt-in: whether we like it or not that's how this server works. This is why even the roll agreement is tentative: if assholes (not naming any names) don't agree and want to have a click-fight, they can.
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These "assholes" are people who keep the spirit of classic alive, which is the key founding element of this server.
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Originally Posted by loramin
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However, as I pointed out in the other thread, there's one other piece here, and that's the fact that the players involved also "opt-in" to helping whoever wins the roll with their fight.
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And what stops this from happening during the classic click-fest? Besides the people who feel like they're entitled to loot because they can't EQ as well as other players.
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Originally Posted by loramin
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Now if that player isn't doing the fight for themselves, all those other players may not want to help them, and they have a 100% legitimate right not to do so.
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There is no definite way to figure out whether or not someone is doing the fight for themselves. So this point is about as sharp as a spoon.
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Originally Posted by loramin
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TLDR: Here's what I suggest. Leave the roll itself as is, not necessarily because it's what anyone wants, but because we can all agree that it's better than a click fest (and we can't agree on anything else). But when it comes time to fight after, everyone helping should demand that the roll winner say who they're doing it for. If they lie and people help them they've violated the server rule on defrauding. But if they are doing it for themselves they get to see the great spirit of this server with free help from kind people.
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If you wanted a roll rule, then it should be only ONE roll per GUILD. This was a suggestion by a dude a while back at Scout that didn't make much sense to me at the time, however, based on OP's complaint (amongst other compliants, similar, from other players), this is probably the most logical player agreement that could be made. I say this, because it prevents Asshole Soandso and his band of 10 to 30 dingleberries from tipping the scale in their favor. It would make a fair chance across the board, and people could still assist in the fight. And at that point, if a guild wanted to decide who the loot would go to, they could without other people being salty about it.
Buuuuuuuut, people on this server don't understand logic, so it'll never happen. Therefore, I stay in favor of the click-a-thon.