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Old 09-05-2017, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
The real question is would Germany have started WW2 and committed atrocities against the Jews if Hitler was never born? And by that I mean was the social climate in Germany such that WW2/Holocaust was probably going to be inevitable and whoever lead was just a figure head? Is Hitler personally responsible? I think its completely probable that he was just the spark that lite the gas of hate for a people who were ready for something to change (Remind you of anything HINT: modern America). I typically lean towards the idea of governments running themselves and whatever happens is the will of the collective whole, but Hitler was also totalitarian so I think he deserves more blame. Its like how people call George W Bush a mass murderer even though I strongly believe he has never personally killed anyone. Not sure where I am going with any of this by the way... Just posting in a sketchy thread.
Hitler would have not been able to do what he did without the underlying conditions in place by the Paris Peace Conference 1919. The Germans were paying heavy reparations for starting World War II. This provided the climate of resentment for Hitler's rise.

But Hitler himself was a huge part of World War II. He actually terrified the German military leaders into following his theories of offensive war. In the last war, The defensive was so strong attacking any nation with entrenched artillery and machine guns was basically suicide (no good combat planes then or tanks). Hitler before the actual military of Germany, saw that Tanks and other motorized inventions made offensive combat much more viable. I don't think just a regular fascist leader would have done this -- meaning Hitler takes at least some individual responsibility for it.

Basically World War II wasn't all Hitler... But it is probably the War you can point to where 1 person made the difference.

I'm against Hitler...unlike some of Trump's base of late. And I don't think Republicans or Democrats have a big problem with this kind of porn because they haven't even talked about it yet. A couple of super christen ex-porn girls made a documentary or two that is about it.

For the most part people say: whatever you should have known. Not "Well -- that is too far.