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Originally Posted by planarity [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The easiest solution is for people to act like reasonable adults and roll for it like the ring. If you want to do the quest for a toon, get them the faction, have them win the roll, and have them loot the mob when it's dead. Devs shouldn't have to do anything about this (even though they have randomized spawn times and locations for other things); we can keep it classic if people can just learn to be reasonable.

The obvious comparison of ragefire comes to mind. We know for a fact that Catherine and others used autofire. Even if you aren't willing to go to the lengths of setting it up in software, you can bind mouse click to your mouse wheel and spin the crap out of it--I know people who have done this and don't consider it cheating. I do, and it's not fair to people who live in other parts of the world, don't use a mouse, or simply know better. And even if there was no autofire, you would still have people trying to block each other out, summoning pets in the hope that others will give the quest item to them, etc.

Maybe for ragefire it wasn't totally clear how to have a fair roll system (if someone has been camping it for longer, do they deserve an advantage? What about clerics seeking epic? etc.), but scout doesn't have any of these issues at all. I'm convinced that a typical kindergarten classroom could tell you what a fair and reasonable system would be.

As for selling loot rights, it's completely fucked for someone to snipe a turnin (probably using some sort of autofire, or it may not be worth their time) right in front of you--when if not for them you could have done it yourself--and have the audacity to try to sell it to you. Go farm monk epics or sell loot rights to neriad shawls or something instead. At least then there's some value added and some actual work being done.

You could have 40 people agree to that, then have one person with auto fire program log in last second and turn in. You're way to optimistic about this server. Regardless of player agreements, GMs rule in favor of turn in. End of conversation.