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Old 06-20-2017, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I'll never understand the alternative. Even the most Jeffersonian of Founding Father rugged-individualist libertarian teapartycrats is a statist in the eyes of an anarchist.

Every time a group of people get together and make a rule, and agree to enforce that rule, they've made a state. It turns out, time and time again, in society after society for tens of thousands of years, from tribes of berry-pickers to worldwide empires, humans prefer to make rules and enforce them.
I'm not posting in here because I'm trying to deny history. But it's not like humanity's history of life under government has been full of peace and love and prosperity, right? It's only been in the last few centuries (out of so many thousands of years), as government has become somewhat less absolute and personal freedoms have generally been greater, that more than a handful of humans rose above bare subsistence.

You say you'll never understand the alternative to government, and I guess it's your prerogative to either refuse to learn or to believe there's nothing to be learned. But personally, I just can't see any reason why a statement like "all human interaction should be voluntary" can be wrong. Denying anarchy is admitting you want to do violence to others who are doing no harm to you, whether you do it via a state or a gang or directly.