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Originally Posted by Zemus
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I'll admit, my argument is more subjective than objective, however, CSG speaks with a single voice and is a single guild de facto. At least from an outsiders perspective.
I don't think it is madness for those interested in nobles to not wish to return to the previous system. The promise of more nobles, up to 1 a day, never really came to be during my time in sky. The timer spreadsheet basically fell apart due to snipe groups/plat farmers holding the timers. That's really the bigger issue. In fact, I was approached yesterday about setting up a team to contest nobles. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] |
CSG is not single guild and does not always speak with single voice, even if we sometimes choose 1 person to communicate with other guilds in some things, that is just because it makes things easier for everyone. Noble has never been one of these cases. Even if we agree upon many things, we also disagree in some. We all have our own cultures, leaders and members. If we wanted to be 1 guild, we would have merged already. And believe me, merge would make alot of things easier, but we choose not to.
We all have our own Sky slots, and we all have had them for several years.
Also Sirken often acknowledges us as 3 different guilds. In all negotiations and talks with Sirken so far each of CSG guilds has had their own seat in the table.
CSG guilds almost always want to be treated as 3 different entities if/when CSG teams up with other guilds like Rustle etc. There is exceptions of course and we can be flexible about this, but usually this is the case. For example on Statue last night CSG was considered as 3 entities when we teamed up with Rustle and later we teamed up again for CT and we were considered as 1 entity, because Rustle basically won nothing valuable on Statue and we wanted to make up for it on CT (in both kills CSG outnumbered Rustle about 4:1).
And it's not unheard of that Europa, AG and Omni has competed against each others on targets that each guild can do by their own easily. Good examples are Noble, Vaniki, Hate minis, RF etc.
A/A has teamed up for many targets lately, should they also be considered as one raiding entity? No.
Timer spreadsheet we had fell apart because guilds didn't hold their part of the agreement where it was stated that "Noble has to die asap" and "Let other guilds know well in advance if you cannot handle Noble that day/time", that gave room for snipe groups and plat farmers to find noble up for several hours and get the timers.
So TL;DR: No matter how hard you want to tells us that we are 1 guild, we are not. We are 3 guilds raid alliance for harder targets due to nature of competitive environment on the server. We share the shame vision how this servers raid scene should be, but that does not mean that we are single guild.