Rag has been alive for what a couple months or so? Has killed a few dains, a couple tmax, a doze, ct? That's about it. All with an average raid size of ~60 I'd guess on average.
Apex has killed the same mobs, and many more for our members (epics, kunark, golems, etc), and a vulak with an average raid size of ~30. Not to mention the bergs are less and the bros are more chill.
Spin it all you want but the pixel:toon ratio is much higher in Apex.
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