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Originally Posted by Rygar
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I don't completely understand what you are saying, are you saying it is hard on P99 to hold agro with procs only? Holding agro is very trivial on P99 when dealing with raid mobs because of the use of insta-agro clickies.
My point is they shouldn't be available trivialize agro management as the patch stated they implemented a nerf easy-mode agro management. If live devs saw P99 agro management, bet your ass a nerf would hit.
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There are probably a lot of things the developers from 1999 would change if they saw what people were doing today. The problem is it's not classic to make those assumptions and change it because you think it's what the devs would have done.
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Originally Posted by loramin
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Here's a question: do you actually know exactly how many "agro points" a mallet gave in 1999? Do you have any direct evidence yourself that the P99 values are classic? If not, how do you know that the "agro point" numbers on P99 are the same, ie. how do you know they are in fact "classic"? The P99 devs have certainly tried their hardest, but maybe there is no direct evidence and their current values are wrong. Certainly no one here remembers these items being as prevalent in classic times (which I admit proves nothing).
Maybe Rygar is trying to make the server more classic, and he's doing the best he can with indirect evidence since no one knows the classic "agro point" values, while you're actively working to keep it less classic. Or maybe he's wrong; that's totally possible and I certainly don't know. But I do know that anyone who has obviously put in time and effort to try and make this server better doesn't deserve to be insulted for wanting a custom server.
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The problem is it's his job to find the agro values of the mallet on live and prove that they are different here. You're trying to use a strawman argument and make someone prove things should remain as they are. Indirect evidence isn't evidence it's an assumption or an opinion, therefore it proves nothing. Saying no one knows is just stupid though, instant clicks weren't nerfed in the patch mentioned so the argument is null.
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Originally Posted by Rygar
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I don't completely understand what you are saying, are you saying it is hard on P99 to hold agro with procs only? Holding agro is very trivial on P99 when dealing with raid mobs because of the use of insta-agro clickies.
My point is they shouldn't be available trivialize agro management as the patch stated they implemented a nerf easy-mode agro management. If live devs saw P99 agro management, bet your ass a nerf would hit.
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They literally nerfed the proc rate of some weapons meaning not all proc rates were the same. Not only that they said that proc rates increased as you leveled which also obviously isn't the case here. On p99 proc rates are all normalized. They also said the proc rates as they were made it too easy to hold agro, that is not the case on p99.