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Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thank you for enlightening Thomas with true wisdom and being completely objective when making your points Loramin.

Anyone that says Ogres are not the master race for shamans simply are ignorant or living in denial. Not sure which one it is for Thomas.

Essentially an Iksar is a gimped troll when you compare both regen races for the shaman class. There's absolutely no reason to pick the Iksar over a troll unless the player simply finds them more appealing aesthetically.

Trolls get slam, iksar do not. Trolls can use JB clickies, Iksar cannot.

These reasons clearly leave a min/max player with two choices for shaman when picking a race, that being ogre first and troll second.

FSI is hands down the most useful racial attribute for shamans in the game, placing ogres as the number one choice for race for shamans. Trolls are second.

You seriously cannot read, can you? Someone a lot smarter than your or loramin has already commented on this:

Originally Posted by brecon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think there's a single true min-maxer that disagrees that a fully geared 60 shaman with all spells and optimal Velious gear is going to be an Ogre. The only other defensible race is Iksar. The main fight is how much 'better' that really makes them.

I'd listen to this guy. He's probably got a level 60 that's wearing better gear than Large Ringmail Pants. Troll comes in as the third best race. Why? Because Jaundiced Bone items suck, and Iksar AC is more important.

Originally Posted by brecon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've done the math. At 60, assuming full spells, there are zero times when you should click a JBB unless it is to finish a runner or pull. Even then I prefer to pull with malo. With the same time as it takes to cast a JBB, you can torp/canni and get mana for a more efficient dot. You can find it somewhere in my history.

This is the gist of it: JBB is not good. It's just not. It's an overrated, overhyped vanity item that you could outpace by using cannibalize and a real nuke. Same goes for the snare necklace. You've obviously never used either one.

Honestly, if you put half the effort into leveling your character that you spent defending your incoherent nonsense on the forums, then you might have a level 46 character by now.