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Old 03-15-2017, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
And this anti-social miscreant you're talking about ... do you honestly think they're going to behave like an angel just because they don't know the rules? People who behave badly are going to behave badly whether or not they understand the server rules. But if more of the server knew the rules they'd be able to call the rule-breakers out instead of (as often is the case with the newer folks) thinking this server is full of jerks with nothing to stop them from being jerks.

I don't understand why the rules have to be some secret document that's spread across hundreds of forum posts and made up of GM messages, people claiming that a GM said something, people who have no idea what they're about (but that doesn't stop them), etc. all just because a few people might try to game the system. I can't speak for GMs, but I'd be willing to bet rules lawyers aren't even a quarter of as much of a problem as rule-breakers are, and I really doubt that they care if someone tries to lawyer them (they'll just allocate the punishment they see fit regardless).

The whole server should know and play by the rules, and the fastest way to get the later is to make the former happen, IMHO.
You talk about the rules as though there is a perfect list somewhere that is being kept hidden.

The rules are a list of principles that the GMs have to interpret from the general to the specific each time they apply them. There is no perfect complete list that can be created and promulgated that will ever change this reality.

This is one of the reasons why EQ is such a great game: the mechanics allow you to be a jerk if you want to be one OR to be a good guy if you want to be one. It will always be the most important thing in an EQ community. Even if there were a list of rules clearly explaining everything there wouldn't be enough GMs to enforce the rules each time someone did something that was against them.

So, while I agree with you in spirit, there is no list in reality that can be made and shared that would address anywhere near the infinite set of scenarios that the rules need to applied to in game. When GMs try to do this they often create more problems for themselves by accidentally arming a rules lawyer with a new argument.

There are some specific rules/rulings for some of the common scenarios that come up. I agree with you in your other posts that the server hasn't done a great job of sharing these in a single place on the website...most of the specific rulings you learn about as you play and talk with other players and GMs. Like how lists work, FTE outdoor nameds, which camps are two camps (Hands/WL in KC, eg.)...its a free server though and I don't fault anyone for not treating it like a full time job.
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