i saw awakened wipe to a Lord of Loathing... Then later as a raid they wiped hoshkar and pd xD kind of sad really when we did hosh with 16.
To go off what you said tho, The times I pooped hate if another guild was there my crew would just note timers and move on/camp out. Just make sure you got someone recording if you port up. Those Russian dash cams come in handy in court.
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