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					Originally Posted by  Vallanor
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				I'm not sure I really understand what exactly is being poopsocked these days? In ToV, the only people in zone during repop days are racers and a handful of AFK people. Is he talking about people standing at the race line waiting on a spawn? That doesn't seem like a poopsock to me. I think of a poopsock as an entire kill force logged in ready to go. With racing, there is really not benefit to doing that.  
 
The only mobs I know that are poopsocked by that definition are fear golems and Severilous, and only a couple guilds are putting themselves through that ordeal (why, I don't know). 
 
Maybe I'm missing something? 
			
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 Kunark era had entire raid forces logged out at raid targets or when the windows were low enough, logged in and all trying to get that kill. It evolved from gms having to check logs of each kill to see who had fte to yellow text to go poopsock the zones. For a lot of targets there were still raid forces logged in at landline ready for that coth, specifically vs and trak were highly contested each spawn. 
Today's raids share a similarity in that there's a plethora of racers from any guild at one time but I don't consider that anything like what it was. I don't know what targets are even poopsocked these days. Maybe a yelinak for coth races? Unless GMs consider raiders racing a poopsock in which case its never going to change.