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Originally Posted by Daldaen
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I'm pretty sure that hardcap was a post Luclin thing. See how favored Trident and Willsapper were in Velious. I recall some Furor posts about this. Tash sticks or some such??
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You are correct with this.
Too lazy to re-type this, so gonna be a boss and quote from 2013
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I don't want to derail this thread, but procs that stun and debuff should not be capped in this era. That means the hate given by these effects 'should' be a function of the NPC's HP rather than the 400 hate cap on non-casted stuns.
I'm not sure if stun and debuff procs are modifier based on the HP of mobs over here, but if the server is using flat values for these spells, it would explain why melee hate seems relatively weak compared to procs in an exp setting. In a raid setting, procs should be WAY more aggro than melee hate.
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Threat per debuff has always been modified to some degree by the NPC's HP. This modifier still exists on EQ, but it was normalized later on (relative to this server). To my knowledge, debuffs should have a very massive multiplier with Velious code.
In addition to this, caps were put on weapon proc components. These same stun proc component would cap at 400 hate; whereas if that same stun were casted, it would generate 1200 hate.
If anybody cares about the math:
http://giline.versus.jp/shiden/stun_e.htm
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Against Captain Stonefist (lv65), Energy Sap increases Hate by range 398.00 to 407.00.
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To my knowledge, there's almost no way of assigning a specific hate value for spells pre-Luclin. So, it's a bit touch-and-go with pre-Luclin code. My guess is that the P1999 devs might be using the values from data after the addition of the weapon proc cap. None of the research threads (i.e. the one I posted or Braels melee one) had a constant value to compare to until SKs received the Terror line of spells.
Edit: Hi Lor!
Actually, come to look: These changes were February of 2001. Should be applied for Velious currently. Above post does not apply!