[Breaken]

I think you're forgetting the original intention for this agreement. Your skepticism and unwarranted scenarios are taking away from the spirit and primary motive of why this agreement was created. It was simply created to cease the absurdity of wasting spawned AoWs due to the top guilds not being able to agree to something and kill Statue when it spawned, be it 5am or prime time.

This was Aftermath's motive. Every guild's motives were different.

Rustle signed it as part of a package deal to get a slot in the VP Rotation,

[10/4/2016 11:15:12 AM] Getsome: A fair VP rotation is our primary goal. In the old rotation both awakened and aftermath went an equal amount of times. Since csg/rustle assumed aftermaths spot during their suspension we were afforded on extra round prior to the events of last Friday.

Awakened signed it as part of a package deal with Hoshkar:

[10/4/2016 11:32:43 AM] Breaken: As I mentioned before, I don't care about the statue thing, I will do the 24 hours or not, doesn't bother me. But I don't want to rotate him.

[10/4/2016 11:33:49 AM] Breaken: We don't really want to benefit anywhere. I've told you our concern, the Cleric staff coming out of the game.

CSG signed it because they just want everyone to get along.

This wasn't created to pad kill lists or brag with. We at Aftermath are not overly concerned with if, by some chance, a guild gets a free attempt at Statue or AoW that isn't Awakened or us. On the contrary, we feel it's good for the server.

If this were true, you would agree with our proposal. Instead, what you mean is, you don't mind if a guild kills Statue as long as they invite you to Avatar. This proposal forces guilds to ask other guilds not named Awakened or Aftermath to help. Since the original agreement was made, I believe I am correct in saying the only time Statue has been FTEd by a different guild has been on a server respawn outside of maybe twice by Rustle. On those respawns, neither Awakened nor Aftermath are willing to sit for an hour, so this forces them to ask other guilds. You are upset that they cannot ask Aftermath. This agreement does not stop guilds from asking for help. It does lower their chances they will receive help from Aftermath or Awakened. Isn't that what you are saying you want?


[10/8/2016 4:59:34 AM] Detoxx: whos here?
[10/8/2016 4:59:44 AM] Detoxx: csg rep?
[10/8/2016 4:59:46 AM] Detoxx: awakened?
[10/8/2016 6:52:14 AM] Breaken: Yo
[10/8/2016 7:41:11 AM] Nemce: I'm awake
[10/8/2016 7:42:13 AM] Detoxx: u8 kill aow?
[10/8/2016 7:42:31 AM] Detoxx: or statue
[10/8/2016 7:42:45 AM] Nemce: statue
[10/8/2016 7:42:51 AM] Detoxx: why would u do that lol
[10/8/2016 7:42:54 AM] Detoxx: u had 24 hours
[10/8/2016 7:42:56 AM] Nemce: we wanted statue loot
[10/8/2016 7:42:58 AM] Detoxx: and id hjave helped!
[10/8/2016 7:43:06 AM] Nemce: it was 4am or something
[10/8/2016 7:43:07 AM] Detoxx: u had 24 hours tho
[10/8/2016 7:43:15 AM] Nemce: Europeans... I have no idea what they are doin
[10/8/2016 7:43:17 AM] Nemce: lol
[10/8/2016 7:43:39 AM] Nemce: i think they wanted a statue and a quick move on other things

Of all the agreements I posted, this is the one that has had little to no issues. Fixing what isn't broke is pointless. There hasn't been any rogue guilds FTEing statue to abuse this as of yet and if and when that happens, we can revisit this.

This is your opinion. Our opinion is that every repop this has been abused. We stated this every single time. From the logs I posted, you can see CSG has agreed in the past as well.

If you would like to enter into this agreement, you can sign it, however there is nothing to be "revisited". This is our proposal to the "raiding guilds" of the server (those who can post here). This is the agreement we will keep with those that sign.