Being an autist im not sure how to interperate your boldened expressions. But i getca condescending feeling. If you guys want to claim BIS during an uncontested reign thats all fine abd good but no caster can claim BIS without tunare loot. Its even hard to put wurmscale fists or fist of lightning ahead of fist of nature given the proc.
Or even tunare dagger vs vyemm as bis.
Red has no reason to brag about bis chars when theyve never killed tunare and rarely aow.
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