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Old 12-13-2016, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Pretty sure this is something the GMs are interested in and it belongs in the Petitions forum with your evidence. Making vague accusations in server chat doesn't get much attention.
there was an identical issue with ragefire a long time ago involving Catherin to which he casually admitted to using autofire. I think he was banned 30 days or something, but was a one-off exception and got temporarily banned because he blatantly admitted to using it not because GMs had to investigate data to build a case. it was also a big elephant in the room at the time because how it affected the raid scene being that AF programs gave you an advantage with the old FTE mechanics; that's why the current FTE situation deters it's competitive advantage. still, back then it wasn't against the rules because it was difficult to police. instead it was "frowned upon, like masturbating on an airplaine".

a great man once said, "it's not what you know...it's what you can prove". the client can't detect AF programs because it registers macros as a key stroke, so it's impossible to truly give you a black and white answer. afaik, I remember reading somewhere that some GMs can analyze apm logs in order to identify probable cause of a player using an AF program. I don't think it's feasible to keep a running log of APM data of every single character on p99..that would require an immense amount of storage (maybe I'm wrong).. perhaps they need to 'turn it on' when someone is acting fishy?

what I'm trying to get at is GM's have the capability to detect probable cause of a person using AF programs, though it's difficult, requires a lot of work, and in the end still not as black and white as detecting a showEQ or something of that sorts. my guess is that it's too much effort to ban a single person; the effort doesn't outweigh the reward (remember GMs are volunteers) not to mention the endless list of other issues, petitions, and clowns they have to deal with on a day-to-day basis. this issue sadly isn't low hanging fruit. i'm sure if detecting it was a quick win, they would be more inclined to do something about it on a micro-level. remember...they did do something about it on a raid level.

my question is that even if someone is using an AF program, can the client even register the clicks/second if the purp has lets say 50ping. theoretically, doesn't the client only register one action per every 50 ms? so even if he's truly registering let's say 100 clicks per 50ms, wouldn't the client logs only show 1 click per 50ms? if my theory is right, then a legit guy should still be able to register 2 actions before the purp does.
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