[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by rubberdoor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know about all of that. Can you list your sources? I'm aware of shamanism's historical prevalence in other geological locations, the latter seems pseudointellectual though. Nepal was just a rough geological reference to the area in which I believe this particular instance occurred. Perhaps I should have said modern-day Northeast India? The Himalayan region?

This was way before Buddhism, Hinduism, and modern Brahmanism. I stated ancient Brahmanism specifically.

Perhaps these people chose to worship the beast who's defecation produced these fruit's of peculiarity.

Originally Posted by rubberdoor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know about all of that. Can you list your sources?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardo_Thodol

The Tibetan history was laid out by a historian in an Introduction to a widely used English version of that book, The Tibetan Book of the Dead. That's about as confirmed as it gets.

Originally Posted by rubberdoor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm aware of shamanism's historical prevalence in other geological locations, the latter seems pseudointellectual though. Nepal was just a rough geological reference to the area in which I believe this particular instance occurred. Perhaps I should have said modern-day Northeast India? The Himalayan region?

So you want to generalize Tibet, Nepal, and Northeast India as one and the same culturally, espouse that the non-existent cohesive culture who lived in this "rough geographical area" were the first people to eat pscilocybin mushrooms and call my point about shamanism pseudo intellectual? Before China conquered Tibet, the people of the Tibetan plateaus shared very little in common other than some common peasant food and love of the Dalai Lama.

We have documentation and evidence of various cultures performing shamanic rituals while using pyschoactive plants like pscilocybin mushrooms, amanita cap mushrooms, peyote (mescaline cacti), and Iowaska root.

Vedic scriptures definitely preach against intoxication, even against the use of marijuana as the inhalation of smoke brings you close to death.

Originally Posted by rubberdoor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This was way before Buddhism, Hinduism, and modern Brahmanism. I stated ancient Brahmanism specifically.

Perhaps these people chose to worship the beast who's defecation produced these fruit's of peculiarity.

I just don't get how you can get off on saying Brahmanism developed out of Tibet. Or Nepal. Or Northeast India. The Indians created Brahmanism. I'm upset because you're saying that these cultures are the same thing, which they are not.

Please consider reading this before continuing. It's a fair summary of what I learned by reading ancient literature, which is accessible to everyone.

http://www.lhasa-apso.org/articles/g...anhistory.html

Here is an excerpt which proves your theory and conjectures wrong

"In the early seventh century, an emperor named Songzen Gambo reached the militaristic empire's natural limits. Unity among warlords is always tenuous, and the high *altitude Tibetans had no interest in further expansion outward into the lowlands. He began transforming the civilization from feudal militarism to something more peaceful and spiritual, based on the people's cultivated moral outlook. In working on this transformation, Songzen Gambo investigated the major civilizations of outer (from his perspective) Asia, and noted that Universalist (Mahayana) Buddhism provided the cultural backbone of the dynasties of India, the silk route city states of central Asia, and the Tang dynasty of China. So he began a systematic process of cultural adaptation."