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Originally Posted by Lhancelot
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I understand the theory here and there is some truth to it. However you are glossing over the bad aspects of your DKP system and pointing out only the good.
To keep saying there's no incentive for players to do a raid where no loot for them will drop isn't completely true. There are actually people who have other motivations besides getting loot.
Believe it or not, some people like helping others. Some people like to be in a guild that believes in building their entire guild up so the force is strong as a whole and not just the ones who have 15 hours a day where they can sit and soak up all the DKP offered by your type of raid guild.
Just because someone goes to 80% of the raids doesn't indicate how much they contribute on those raids, so the statement that "oh, well if someone is going to 80% of the raids they deserve twice as much as the guy that only goes to 40%!" This is one fault of the DKP sponge system, sponges can go and hump raid mobs every day all week, and then have tons of DKP and not contribute hardly at all to the raids.
I am just saying there are other incentives for people to take part in raids other than getting their own loots. Greed is a driving force and loot is a big incentive for many, but not all.
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AG routinely has non-DKP event raids for epics and hard quest mobs and the like. I believe when Expediency was saying, "why would I show up if /rand was the only way to get loot and I have everything from that zone" was just showing in general what the problems with a /rand system is. You'll have some folks that contribute to help out of course, but you'll have folks that may lose incentive so raid attendance may not be as strong. DKP is a good incentive when there is no loot at stake in a current raid because you can build up points for future raids.
I encourage you not to snip out a statement and point out everything wrong with that statement on its own, look for the context.