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Originally Posted by Lojik
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Not to sound condescending, but judging by your join date you joined the server after p99auctions had already been around for a while. How can you really have a sense of how p99 auctions changed the server? Before p99 auctions buying/selling in EC you had assholes already. Here are a few random things I have noticed peddling a lot of farmed goods in EC before and after p99 auctions began.
1) It seems like the site facilitated trade more easily: people on both ends were pretty confident with prices being around what they expected, particularly with commonly sold goods.
2) Before p99 auctions, if I auctioned something at 3k, even if it was below what I almost always saw it for sale for in ec, I'd get tells for buying at 2.5k and reject. These people would almost always insist that 2.5k was fair price, or they couldn't afford more, or their dog died so please help them out etc. After p99 auctions, I'd say 75% of the time I reject a lowball offer they just say "fine I'll buy at 3k."
3) Prices seem to have a much lower variance: Schnickusaurus even made a thread about how he can only turn 1k profit buying/selling on Fungis and he was going to "retire" from this market.
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I started on P99 in 2012, took a long break and came back less than a year ago. Originally, I never verified through email my forum account, and lost that email sent from P99, so had to use a new email and do it over again when i came back to the game. The join date you see doesn't reflect accurately how long I have been on the server.
When I first started on P99 I used to use wiki for prices, there was no P99 auctions. I learned about P99 auctions when I noticed wiki prices were not updated frequently and the prices were old, so I started asking how people checked prices.
Your examples and what you use as proof of how P99 auctions made prices fair and less varied are strictly subjective personal experiences of your own. You have no hard data that proves your case, only what "seems" to be the case. That being said...
I personally could manipulate the P99 auction prices without even putting hardly any effort into it. I did it. This isn't subjective, this is fact.
You can stand by your opinion that P99 kept prices regulated fairly etc., but that's not really the case because the fact is P99 auction prices were being manipulated by sellers.
That "monthly average price" of items, where do you think it came from?
It came from prices that were collected from EC that were set by the players, and I know it's hard to fathom, but many players understood this and put up false advertisements for the sole purpose of setting the price for items they commonly farmed and sold.
You are correct when you say prices had a much less variance I agree with that, because the prices set were easy to go look up and read from P99 auctions... That doesn't mean those prices were not fixed by players selling specific items or that those listed prices gave a fair price for an items actual plat worth.