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Old 10-05-2016, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
the only one bringing the goodguy/badguy dichotomy to this conversation is you mein goi

why it is good they are supporting Syria? the globalist faction destabilizing Syria and using US air power to help ISIS gain victories wants chaos in Syria, the highly publicized brutal slaughter of innocents, ISIS propaganda etc to drive American public opinion into justifying a "humanitarian" invasion during the next administration. Obviously Russia is simply resisting the expansion of the US sphere of influence into their own, not doing something because it is right or wrong (yikes), but in this case the Russkie goal of preventing an American invasion aligns with that of Americans who don't want to see US military assets sucked into another quagmire predicated on lies to enrich war profiteer traitors and foreigners.
This is a clever way to look at it.

You're making R Flair look like a fucking dunce in this thread and it's wonderful.

However, I don't think it's accurate to cast the USA as cultivating ISIS victories or benefiting strategically from ISIS in any big-picture way. ISIS is an immense force for instability across the entire region, and instability and unpredictability like that are bad for business. For example, tens of thousands of refugees floating to Italy from the ruins of Libya contributes to the instability of the European economy, whose crash would be devastating to the US, including the US elite.

It's also a stretch to claim this administration was able to plan or mastermind the current trajectory of things in Syria. If that were the case, you wouldn't have had Obama threatening Assad over the use of chemical weapons and then completely reneging on it. That was a blunder no matter how you look at it. Many knew the factions that were responsible for the insurgency in Iraq (many of the fighters came in from Syria) would go out of control once we left, but I don't think anybody predicted that they would come up with something like ISIS that has mass appeal to Muslims.