[Reis]

This is the only response in this thread I'll make, and I'll be brief.

The guild did not collapse. We moved on without him.

He had offered me leadership two weeks prior after saying he didn't want to or could not continue leading the group. I had convinced him to give it another shot, and he did.

The combination of things he had said in discord, along with some things he had said about members proved he was not capable in continuing to run a guild. I then asked if that offer for leadership was still valid. I received a quick "lol no" response, and after explaining why I was asking for it, I was promptly removed from the guild, along with another officer.

We both agreed that we wanted to continue playing our characters with this style, and received /tells from other guildmates asking what happened. In a few hours that night most of the guild had removed themselves from WoY in preparation for creating a new guild with the same ruleset.

Baldere later that night asked me to take leadership of the guild as he wanted to have some sort of 'legacy' and without thinking did the /makeguildleader command on me, making the guild leaderless, even with me telling him I was uninterested at that point and was moving forward with plan B.

To say the guild collapsed is misleading. Most everyone has migrated over and we are still picking up the occasional person who logs on and asks what happened. Thank you to Direlord for setting himself up as guild leader to update the /guildmotd to inform people.

big_ole_jpn he had mentioned you are his friend and I can respect you asking for what happened. That being said, I have no reason to lie but also no reason to delve into details on a public forum as even though we disagreed with many things, I respect that he initially got this group together. My goal is merely to keep it going strong.