[Breaken]

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think what this guy meant was if it wasn't for all my Rampage pals being so generous Taken would of never got anything.

You are probably right. Taken would not have gotten the experience inside Temple of Veeshan if it were not for Rampage. Point? I don't see one. I, along with many other ex Taken, are very grateful for the fun we had with Rampage. It's why we thought Awakened was a great idea. Turns out it was.

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean what did Taken ever do on their own? I don't recall them EVER killing a contested VP target when IB/TMO was actively killing there. Once Velious was released Rampage didn't focus on VP and Kunark targets so we let BDA and Taken have VP, and the smaller guilds have Kunark targets.

Taken did everything they accomplished on their own prior to Velious, and even for awhile during Velious. We were very content with our progress. We went from super casual to somewhat casual to somewhat hardcore. Talk about building from the ground up. We competed for what we wanted and didn't ask for hand outs. If we wanted to compete on an FFA mob, we did. If we didn't, we didn't. So, because we didn't compete in the VP shit show, we were not relevant? I'm sorry you live in the past. Both IB and TMO no longer exist. Sure, they deserve their props for what they accomplished during their time, but I don't see them around now.

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To show you how greedy Taken (Awakened) are, they are STILL to this day killing fear golems, VS, etc. I could go on, but I am sure you guys get the point. When they are doing nothing but giving that stuff to alts when the smaller guilds main toons that's been waiting for years still need stuff like that for their epics.

I find it funny when people try to diminish Awakened by calling us Taken. Shows ignorance. Anyway, yes, we do kill Fear Golems and VS. Why? Because of Puppet Strings, Amulet of Necropotences, and Gnarled Staves. That's it. We compete on roughly one VS a month. That's about 10% of them. We also normally award these staves to whoever was tracking it. In the past 6 kills, that was 3 Mains. Mains who, as you said, have been waiting for years for their epic. We compete on Fear Golems now that they drop the loot that used to only be on Cazic Thule. This goes back to the point Daldaen made about Veeshan's Peak. There are always going to be highly sought after items that are just too rare to stop going for. Know what the funny part about this is? Aftermath competes on all of these as well. I guess that doesn't play into your motive for posting though.

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also Rampage gave Awakened TONS of items and platinum to help them out for recharges and to start the guild out right.

Maybe you are misinformed, or maybe you are just spewing propaganda. Either way, the "facts" are that the guild bank was a 50/50 split on platinum. Taken was asked what their bank had, and Rampage matched it. A few months later, Hokushin did add an additional 500k to the bank. For that, and the original split, I (we) are grateful. Never implied we weren't.

Items? I don't believe we got any Bladestoppers from Rampage, as they were all mostly privately owned. Seeing as we have 4 *guild* lockets, I don't believe more than 1 of those came from Rampage, though there are members with personal ones. I do believe we got a decent amount of Prayers from their bank. Probably roughly 50% of our guild ones. Though again, there are personally owned ones.

All of these items, as well as the platinum, we are appreciative of, but these are the facts.

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In closing, Taken never killed one contested Velious target by themselves. I can remember them wiping many many times on Klandicar and Rampage coming to help them just to be the nice guys we are.

Taken absolutely killed contested Velious mobs. Maybe not ones that were priority to Rampage, though I don't really know, but I didn't know Rampage was the only guild in Velious. Maybe the only dominant one, but that doesn't mean there isn't competition elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So once Awakened was formed all my Rampage pals had to carry them for several months till they got the hang of ToV and VP.

You are probably right that ex Rampage carried a lot of the weight in terms of strategy and geared players at first. I will say that the tracking load was shared.

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is funny to me about the entire situation is the fact Awakened would be NOTHING without the ex IB/Rampage that came over to carry them. But they act all smug, and act like they are all that ... give me a break. You guys might not admit it, but we all know its true.

This could be said about any pair of guilds that merged. Rustle would be nothing without the ex IB/Rampage that came back to the game to carry them. Aftermath would be nothing without the assistance they got from Asgard. I don't buy that Awakened would be *nothing*, but I agree Awakened (beyond the fact of not existing, still being called Taken) would not be the top guild on the server. However, at this point, as was said by someone else, Awakened is far from just ex-TRamps. Many, many of our top contributors are Awakened through and through.

Finally, I don't know who you are referencing about acting smug, though I am sure, as with every guild, there are smug people in Awakened. However, at this point in Awakened, the success is completely in the hands of Awakened members. I don't think many of us are overly prideful. I believe most of us are just the right amount. As Detoxx implied, every week is a new week. Being great this week has nothing to do with being great last week, or bad for that matter. There are some people who believe we dominate every week, and sure, they are probably a little overly satisfied with our kill lists, but they earned it. They are the ones who make it happen. Not ex Rampage, not ex Taken, but Awakened.

In the end, most, if not all, of us are grateful for everything Rampage did for the formation of Awakened, but we have been self sufficient and self accomplished for quite some time. If you can't acknowledge that then you are either resentful, jealous, possibly brain washed, or just plain trolling.