[Csihar]

Originally Posted by aMindAmok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im going to have to agree with Daywolf here.

Metal and Punk can be very similar and often are. But that is because they are both based off the same thing. However, at least in the beginning, Punk took a very different path away from Hard Rock than Metal did.

Punk was born out of rebellion. The whole idea of Punk was to put emphasis on the message. To do so, the music was stripped down to its simplest elements and played loud and poorly. In fact, it was not considered Punk to even know how to play the instrument (from a traditional learned experience). The idea was to be as raw as possible so that the real star of the show were the words and not the music.

Metal took a different path. Metal is extremely meticulous in its musical production. Favoring complexity in the composition over the lyrical portion of the song. Metal is a showcase of talent. The overwhelming theme is to showoff how well the instruments can be played.

This is what separates Metal and Punk. They are very similar in that they both are heavily influenced by the Hard Rock era. But, they were influenced in a very different way. Punk is not Metal. In fact, most Punk Rockers in the early days would probably kick your ass for even thinking they sound like metal. They were very against the style of Metal because it was too practiced thus losing the heart of what Rock and Roll was about. Metal was the opposite of that. They chose to be the best musically and technically as their homage to Rock and Roll.

This is not where Daywolf and I disagree. I even said that they were different in their inception.

Originally Posted by Csihar

If you're talking about traditional heavy metal vs punk (as in Ramones, The Damned first albums etc.) then sure.

However, it's this I'm responding to:

Originally Posted by Daywolf

And I wouldn't put any form of punk in resemblance of metal

Metal and punk have influenced each other musically (punk obviously had a huge non musical influence on inspiring people with their DIY attitude and lack of necessary playing skills) and there are punk bands who audibly have a metal influence and vice versa. There are fusion genres. That alone says it all.