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Originally Posted by Saludeen
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I predict you're just trying to make a claim that "Islam is X" where X is anything negative. Islam teaches us to submit to God alone and do good, which is what Isa taught. Anything specific should be judged in light of that.
So what specific teaching do you have a problem with?
I don't expect you to read multiple paragraphs of explanations.
But i'll start with "live by the sword". Isa didn't teach pacifism. Pacifism is how millions of people get murdered by despotic governments. Self defense and fighting against evil is necessary for justice and peace on earth, even if we hate war.
According to Christians if an innocent person was being killed, they would stand by and watch because to attack or stop the criminal would be violent and hypocritical. That's not what Isa taught. Any good Muslim would immediately stand up for the innocent regardless of their religion, unless they're an obvious criminal.
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You never answered where Islams understanding of Isa comes from. You are saying that the only understanding of Isa comes from Muhammad 600 years after he(Isa) died? Even though his followers were walking and preaching what would be the bible? Also the passage you quoted is very similar to the words of Jesus which speaks to the fact that Muhammad was familiar with these passages. That being the case then how can you say he did not preach pacifism? Turn the other cheek? He who is without sin cast the 1st stone? live by the sword die by the sword(this when Peter tried to defend him from being taken by the Romans)? I am trying to understand how you can believe in Jesus but deny his words because "muh hammad"