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Old 07-19-2016, 04:24 PM
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Yeah the Bible or Dead Sea Scrolls. The source of information regarding Jesus life and teachings that existed 600 years before Muhammad came along. There are some 5000+ old manuscripts of the bible that align pretty damn well. Is the Muslim understanding of Jesus all based on words from Muhammad? How do you reconcile that it is incompatible with Christ teachings. Things like "live by the sword die by the sword" "render unto ceaser..." "the good Samaritan" etc pretty much anti-statist, anti-war, anti-discrimination positions that the Islamic world has inverted to justify their militant history and present terror campaigns.
I predict you're just trying to make a claim that "Islam is X" where X is anything negative. Islam teaches us to submit to God alone and do good, which is what Isa taught. Anything specific should be judged in light of that.

So what specific teaching do you have a problem with?
I don't expect you to read multiple paragraphs of explanations.

But i'll start with "live by the sword". Isa didn't teach pacifism. Pacifism is how millions of people get murdered by despotic governments. Self defense and fighting against evil is necessary for justice and peace on earth, even if we hate war.
According to Christians if an innocent person was being killed, they would stand by and watch because to attack or stop the criminal would be violent and hypocritical. That's not what Isa taught. Any good Muslim would immediately stand up for the innocent regardless of their religion, unless they're an obvious criminal.