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Nihilist_santa · #16 07-12-2016, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's really quite straightforward. Basically Bernie wants his policies enacted, or failing that, policies that are as close to his as possible. So his goals are:

1. Get elected.
2. If that fails, make sure Clinton beats Trump.

#2 is Bernie's logical course of action because a Trump presidency is even more adverse to his values than a Clinton presidency. It's also where I disagree with Bernie, precisely because of immigration, racial, and national-culture issues.

For all Trump's dishonest rhetoric (he is as incoherent as Hillary), what policy he has put forward is your run of the mill 'rising tide lifts all boats' 'cut-taxes-on-the-ultra-wealthy' generic fiscal conservatism. And while Clinton is ultimately probably going to offer something close to the same thing, it's going to be further to the left in many areas, closer to where Bernie is (but still very far away)

And no I'm not backtracking on my vote. I'd still vote Bernie in a heartbeat if he were the nominee, and I still despise Trump. It's only the convergence of a lot of different very complicated factors that has resulted in this kind of god-awful reality where the best course of action is to vote for someone like Trump.

The United States had to ally with the Soviet Union to defeat Nazi Germany. That wasn't because the US and USSR were best friends or because the USA was 'selling out' its values... luckily our leaders didn't have such a simplistic mindset. It was because we thought the US/USSR winning the war was a better outcome than Nazis taking over Europe.

And no, uncoupling wealth from political power was Bernie's #1 overarching stance. That's absolutely not beneficial to the ultra-rich, and it's something he shared with no other candidate.

US totally sold out allying with the USSR. 40 years of post ww2 communism proved that. Should have sided with Germany and crushed the USSR and the pan-aryan empire would be colonizing the solar system by now.