I would argue it's more of the constant raid scene rule changes that kill guilds more than a competitor rising to compete. How long do you think TMO (old, crew that loved to train in non csr vp) would put up with coth ducking for sev after 5 years of Kunark? I doubt very long. If they made VP CSR years ago they would not have had the free reign there either. Basically, we are a product of our situations and TMO definitely played their situation well it doesn't grind your soul like coth duck fte at 3 am does.
(I voted TMO)
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