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Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's difficult or impossible to have a useful discussion with someone who regards anyone who harbors an opinion different from his own as "retarded."

Of course there's an appeal to emotion there; emotion lies at the very core of issues like this one. If you eliminate all emotion, you're left with cold unfeeling logic--which will determine that it's most efficient to simply cull any unproductive or excess members of society. Caring for the sick, the injured, and the infirm isn't efficient or logical. Plenty of other species don't do it. However it's the humane thing to do. I go a further step and claim that people should not face financial ruin simply because they get hurt or sick. Protecting people from the problems life can throw at them is the fundamental reason we build nations in the first place.

You think worker's comp is all great? Guess what, they start you out--if you're lucky--at 70% of your pre-injury earnings (that's the maximum here in OH) and whittle it down from there. Oh, and they don't adjust it for inflation, either, so have fun a decade later when your already paltry compensation has lost another third of its buying power. You think that's fair? I call it sociopathic.

I know what it means to have to deal with the system. I watched both my parents develop long-term illnesses that bankrupted and ruined them and left them destitute before they finally succumbed. They lost their house, land, life savings, and most of their possessions. Logically? Within our present system my parents would've been better off shooting themselves as soon as they got sick. I find that reality disgusting. I've watched other family members suffer injuries at the job and lose most of what they had, exchanging a solid middle-class life for scraping by at poverty level. I've watched, with ever growing anger, other family members get denied necessary treatments by for-profit insurance companies that care only for their bottom line, while the suffering continues and conditions worsen. None of these people are or were slackers or in any way deserving of mistreatment. It's wrong, and we can and should do better.

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Folks who're out of work don't particularly bother me in an environment where there are more available workers than useful jobs for them. Again, either work has to be made, or society has to accept a (likely to increase) proportion of adults who simply aren't needed in the workforce. Denigrating such people as slackers or worthless fails to even slightly address the reality of that issue.

Danth

this guy has 1000 posts and apparently signs every one manually. lol

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