[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In my opinion, a big part of it was the TMO leadership's choice not to listen to input from Red veterans. They played in a sort of passive way, letting members chain-die, not really preparing for PvP or trying to learn about it.

People often refer to a Teamspeak conversation in which Darkdeath refused to carry pumice, claiming he would simply cast Cancel Magic or Nullify Magic. And they wouldn't try to keep their raids low-profile, gather up in secret, move as a single unit. This kind of willful ignorance and refusal to learn how to PvP is ultimately what destroyed TMO Red. I believe if they had taken advice from the vets they had tagged, like Rag and Tune, they might have lasted.

The other thing was getting repeatedly wiped by <Friends> and <Empire>. (Full disclosure, I helped kill them.)

TMO failed because they took you guys in. There's really no other reason.