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Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey
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Wait, am I considered morally bankrupt because I choose to play by the rules, or because I don't choose to play by your made-up rules?
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You ... call those of us out who don't play by your style of idealistic play?
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But don't ... call us out by guild and names ...
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How does that make me morally bankrupt?
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(Edited to bypass flames, personal attacks, insults, etc., and to condense)
Here is an example of me saying you're morally bankrupt:
"YendorLootmonkey is morally bankrupt." Please direct me to where that appears in any of my previous posts. I think you're in a much better position to answer your questions about your own morality than I am. I don't really know you.
Secondly, I mentioned the guild by name and the members by name. If I understand it correctly, many of the arguments being raised by you and others are that the people who took the camp were within their rights and did nothing wrong. If this is so, they shouldn't be in jeopardy of suffering any community opprobrium from anyone. I told the story as best I recalled it. If you feel like I misstated something, the other people who were there can certainly feel free to clarify. But if the VD members were in the right, what consequence is it to them or the guild to be mentioned by name? I don't think anyone has a basis to accuse me of slander--I haven't said anything that was untrue (and if someone can point out to me that I have, let me know so I can correct it), so what exactly am I calling people out for?
But alright, I guess that's a little evasive. From
my perspective, even if everyone were to immediately concede the point and we all agreed that the behavior of the VD members was wrong, I frankly don't think they can expect any meaningful retribution, and that was never the point. VD's reputation is what it is, and I'm the last person able to tell anyone conclusively whether it's good or bad. Even if my entire intent was to cause problems for the guild (and it's not--I don't know any of the members and have never had contact with any of them before this incident), I expect nothing would come of it; whether the guild as a whole are bastions of uprightness or the scum of the earth, I at least expect it to have a respectable level of solidarity. Give me a little credit here.
Darian - I expect VD members to be involved in the discussion just like anyone else; I certainly wouldn't want to deny them an opportunity to respond.
Odeseus asked me explicitly about my thought process and rationale when it comes to deciding to start this thread in the first place, and with apologies, I'm declining to go into details about every ticking gear in my head because it just doesn't matter. I think I explained my reasoning pretty thoroughly in the opening post, and I don't expect anyone else to get any benefit out of knowing every graphic detail of my thought process. Also, I can recommend some churches in the deep south if you need a background in spitting hellfire, since my anger at its worst is a far cry from that. Finally, sorry if this comes across as rude, but the questions smelled a little of trollbait.