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Old 05-21-2016, 12:56 PM
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No, I don't take it that you are arguing "that there is no creator". I'm not sure about the "we" part though, that would also be an unknown. Collectively, sure, but I can't speak of individuals other than of myself.

But like I mentioned, collectively there could be problems. If someone had irrefutable proof, they could become a very dangerous individual. If God parted the sky and showed everyone what's up, that would be the end to civilization as we know it. It's game over and we stop striving, stop maturing, and rely on God to do every little thing for us.

Would you do that to your kids, keep them as kids forever? Or do you let them learn and mature? If you don't give your kids everything they want, they throw tantrums, get mad at you and blame you. Then you gotta try to correct that, or just let them go rotten. Your kids suffer, but it's not entirely a bad thing, and in time they mature and become the better for it. So you can't be there to tie their shoes, button their shirts, brush their teeth, these are things they need to learn to do on their own. Then one day hopefully they appreciate your resistance to doing those things for them well into their adulthood.

Some believe in aliens. That these aliens come from a far off galaxy etc. To do that, they would need to be unbelievably advanced. If so, and they are here, why do they let us suffer? If aliens parted the sky and showed everyone what's up, that would be the end to civilization as we know it. It's game over and we stop striving, stop maturing, and rely on aliens to do every little thing for us. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not saying what you should believe, this or that, just that questions are good. As humans, it should be a question, that's healthy. I think that is part of the purpose to being human, and spurs growth and maturity. If anything I just advocate the questioning of things. Even questioning questions.
I am glad you brought up the parenting analogy, that is what i alluded to when I referenced "some other reason." It is a great analogy if there is a creator and it is powerful, but not omnipotent. If a parent were omnipotent, why wouldn't they grant their child the ability to readily understand what they needed to do without constant direction and reprimand?

I like your embrace of skepticism, but I don't see what bearing that has on the definition of words. We can redefine words to fit our goals, but then we have no effective medium of communication. Late has a very clear meaning that we understand and if someone is not at an event when it is scheduled to begin, then they are late. There is no sensible reason to question that. If we are going to debate words themselves, we cannot have a discussion.
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