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Old 05-20-2016, 09:14 AM
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Or they are there but we are just too preoccupied with something to notice. Lots of times I've had those moments where someone or something that I thought wasn't there actually was there all along, the realization hit me by surprise.
I am specifically referring to the nature of people who are actually not there, whether we as attendees know or do not know that they are not there. If they actually are not there (whether we see them or not, or are even aware of them at all) then they are late.

If we are looking for a specific person and do not see them then I agree, they could be anywhere. Whether we see them or not has no bearing on their lateness if they truly are not there though.

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Our senses are pretty funky, I really-really-really wish I could even look into the sky and see the whole UV spectrum at night, or feel the literal waves of the universe roll over me. I know it's there and active, a big part of my life knowing it or not, I search it often, but... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
At least my faith says it's there. Still can't touch it or show it to you directly w/o need for the same faith, but it's there. Even our concept of pictures are limited, so much more going on there we can't see of the sky, that a camera can only show grey ghosts of.

And not just the big stuff that mesmerizes me, like mega black holes and magnetars and such, but even to the tiny world we can see nothing of, yet is active in our lives. That world is a huge mystery the way it works, especially in the realm of quantum physics. I'm blown away the more and more I learn of it over the years, just astounding. When I was born, we had no idea the Universe was so huge and also so small. And I think we have hardly even scratched the surface of our reality, we are so very small.

My personal interpretation? We are in a hatchery. Too much or too little we just don't develop as we should, individually. If the hen pecks the shell open we die. Certainly we are meant to search things out and develop, just look how complex everything is from the biggest to the smallest of things in our universe. Those things always there but we just didn't know how to look (and still don't fully), which is not simply by sight. And then individually we move on, just as like the first law of thermodynamics.
Don't get me wrong, I am not arguing that there is no creator, just that we have no way of knowing. That does not prevent us from inferring things about its nature though if it does exist. I said if it does exist it is malevolent, impotent or apathetic and not both benevolent and omnipotent for a reason. If it we're benevolent why does it allow suffering? It must either be incapable of doing anything or unwilling to do anything or perhaps it has another reason. If it has another reason though and is omnipotent, then why not alter that other reason such that it is no longer a reason? If it is benevolent then it would do so.

While perhaps less inspiring and certainly less promising, the universe is all the more amazing if the product of random chance. Play a lottery or flip a coin, then go take a look at the life around you and what it is capable of. Then go learn of cellular biology, chemistry and physics and quantum mechanics too, and all the processes by which our world is governed. It is mind blowing (as you've already agreed with ^^) Until you attribute it to an omnipotent source. Then it is not so miraculous, not at all. Why so slow, why so inefficient, why at all?
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