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Originally Posted by Darian
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Excessively exaggerated? The only things I changed from the OP's story were the mob in question and the bind point, the latter of which (as you've just told us) shouldn't matter.
I agree with you there. Where we disagree is that I happen to think when a camper dies, comes back, finds camp taken, then argues he should be given unlimited chances and deaths to kill the mob without anyone else having a chance (even if he's in over his head)... well, I think that guy is the bigger dick than the folks who took the camp in his absence. The fact that my position lines up better with server rules doesn't mean the rules dictate my morality.
If it had been me camping and I'd died, I wouldn't begrudge people for taking the camp. I expect the best from my guildmates (there's that community thing you're talking about), but I just don't think they're in the wrong here.
oh and inb4 RnF switch
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It just really irks me how often people are happy to tell each other to "fuck off, look at the rules". I mean, honestly, the gameplay in this game isn't exactly the most exciting thing ever. What is great though is how much of an influence players can have on each other, both good and bad. I know that going out and buffing noobs on my druid can make SOOOO much more impact than it can in basically any other game, and that's actually why I'm leveling a druid right now (again actually, since my previous account got compromised due to not being cautious enough.) Strictly because I want to go out and offer those useful buffs. Do I expect other people to do the same? Not at all, but it sure does irk me when people are soooo much more than happy to tell someone else to fuck off, look at the rules.
A good example of something I saw recently that I found quite disheartening was when I was in Lguk (on my 50 necro) going around looking for nameds to kill and shit, I took a peek at Lord and saw he was up with a Yak and saw a necro with crappy gear nearby. I asked the necro if they were killing the Lord to which they said yes. I had very little experience with Lord so I decided to sit by and see how they went about killing the Lord as well as to lend a hand if they got in a bad spot. After sitting there for about 5-10 minutes, they asked me "Are you going to just sit there and hope I fail, or....?" and at first I found it somewhat offensive, shit, I'm just wanting to watch and maybe lend a hand, and you're going to ask if I'm trying to jack you? But I realized I can't really blame them since if they did die the rules would allow me to take the mob and Yak and I'm sure they've probably ran into plenty of people who would love nothing other to do that (and hell, had probably ran into people who had done exactly that.)
The necro example is a pretty good one in this example since after talking to them for awhile I found they had been trying to kill him a couple times now and kept getting close and died a couple times, so according to what some people say "He's in over his head, he doesn't deserve the mob!" but on the attempt where I was watching they managed to kill the Lord with absolutely no problem whatsoever. Had they died and I killed the mob and took the Yak, the rules certainly would have allowed that, AND I do not think the rules should state otherwise, but, with that said, I do think I would have been a 100% grade A douche bag to take it.