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Originally Posted by Phragmar
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...a bunch of idealistic, utopian stuff...
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I apologize... I didn't realize we were all playing "Phragmar's View of What Everquest Should Be Like".
Do not hold my guild or others accountable for your vision of the way things are supposed to be. Who are you to decide what is right and wrong? These things are spelled out objectively in the server ruleset precisely so people aren't held accountable to every Tom, Dick, and Harry's subjective view of right and wrong. The only reason you think something is a douchebag move is because you want to pick and choose which parts of the rule set you want to play by, and which parts you don't, and then paint some evil picture of whoever doesn't pick and choose in the same fashion.
No one's going to leave the server because they were "treated like a dick." They are going to leave the server because they didn't agree with the rule set, or were too oversensitive to handle the rule set being applied in a situation that was not in their favor (i.e. retaining a camp for X number of minutes after you die/wipe.)
Rilen died, for whatever reason, and lost the camp. At the time he was sent to his bind point by whatever killed him, the camp no longer belonged to him. I don't care which way you want to twist it... if you for one second suppose that the camp still belonged to him after he died, then you're saying camps can be reserved for an unspecified amount of time while the player is on CR. Which, if you played Live as you have claimed, you know is totally ridiculous.
Now you come here with your own made-up rules in your head that people should wait X number of minutes for someone to come back to a camp after they failed to keep it and died. Who are you to make up this rule? How am I supposed to know I am being held accountable for it? What is this magical number X number of minutes I must wait before the camp is no longer theirs? And when you see members of my guild not abide by this artificial ruleset, they're the douchebags? They're evil? They're loot-centric?
What about the person making up rules magically protecting someone's claim to a camp while they aren't even in the zone? Because they died. Which are completely different than the established rules set forth by the server admins so that there would be no question about this situation?
I know this is a carebear server, but what you're looking for is a server powered by rainbows and unicorn farts. Sorry the population of P1999 didn't live up to your divine standards. I hope you don't plan to do any raiding any time soon, because you're in for a rude awakening. No, if you wipe on Naggy, the guild breathing down your necks behind you is not going to give you as many attempts as you want until you give up and graciously let them take a turn. This was no different on Live, so it shouldn't be a shocker to you here.
Again, sorry we all disappointed you. I guess that's really all I have to say. And if you need a SoW in EC Tunnel while I'm standing there, I'll still give one to you if you'd like.