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Originally Posted by JurisDictum
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1) the policies he has proposed have been tried in other advanced industrial democracies (Germany, Sweden) and seem to work better than our market based approach. If you want to spin this into something about Soviet Russia -- frankly you don't know anything about democratic socialism and should stop getting your info about it from Rush Limbagh.
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Germany/Sweden are small and culturally/ethnically uniform. The US is large and culturally/ethnically diverse. Soviet Russia is far more comparable. In addition, if you seriously believe we have a free market here, you need to wake up and smell the coffee. The "market" moves purely at the whim of the central banks.
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Originally Posted by JurisDictum
My point is that you would be better off, statistically, being white than getting 100 free SAT points. White people often see this the other way around and feel like victims of discrimination. You want to zero in on the one part where black people get a small bonus and ignore the entire downside leading up to that.
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Including race as part of the admission decision is the very definition of discrimination. I don't understand how you can argue this.
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Originally Posted by JurisDictum
The fact that you bring this up is puzzling unless you are claiming that whites are biologically smarter than blacks. Which we have demonstrated not to be true.
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Where has this been demonstrated? AFAIK the fact that the Black/White test score gap refuses to go away is a source of continual frustration for educators. I'm not claiming that this gap DOES prove that whites are biologically smarter on average, but I certainly have not seen the reverse demonstrated.
I personally am against all forms of discrimination, whether they target Blacks, Whites, Asians, Hispanics, men, women, republicans, democrats, gays, straights, young people, old people, etc etc. So I am against Jim Crow and affirmative action equally. I find it rather amusing that our government, which outlaws discrimination based on race, does in fact itself discriminate based on race. Orwell is living large in modern society. Or was that Huxley? I forget.