Tempest isn't perfect, I know empire didn't walk into velious and down vulak within the first month did they? We still need more dps, some are still sub 60s, most still can benefit from kunark upgrades. Having 2 primal rogues, and a decked out tank(xepiz) helps a lot. But for the most part, the other 30-40 people are in rags from freshly hitting 60 or nearly there. How many clerics did we use on vyemm chain, 13? plus the 20 some warmbody druids/necros patching and pumping?
Anyway, Tempest has basically one shot every single boss first try around.
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