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Old 04-02-2016, 12:48 PM
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Pint, I can see how you'd come to that conclusion. But you cannot read my mind so I object to you mapping that onto me. This probably isn't the right place for this, but maybe it is. Because our perspective counts, too, when it comes to discussing the rules. What follows is a portion of a post that I made to our guild forums on 8 Feb 2016 called: PSA - a word on target selection and being Omni:
I’ve heard there are some questions about why we select the targets that we do.

I need to make a few things clear right up front. There are some raid rules for this server. They live here: (links provided)

And even though they do not get enforced regularly or consistently we follow them. Even tho the punishments are seldom enough to serve as a deterrent, we follow them.

The reason we follow them is because we’re guests here. If I come into your house and you ask me not to drink all of your beer and not to kick your dog, I don’t. Because it’s your house and I’m a guest. So, too, is it on the server with the server’s rules.

That means several things to us. First, it limits our target selection. Many of you saw the trains that we ate on King Tormax. On this server, King Tormax is pulled to the zone – with his friends flopped off somewhere. Not necessarily onto people, but without any regard to the backwash pathing through the zone. (more raid rules quoted)

That means given the way that the rules are enforced now, guilds who are willing to break those rules kill KT instantly. They don’t clear to him. So, too, is it in NToV. You must necessarily cheat to kill those mobs.

What that means for us, in this moment, is KT and NToV mobs (and to a degree, VP mobs) are off the table for us if we choose to follow the rules. And we have a (nearly) two year history of that. I won’t lead a guild that kicks the dog and drinks all of the beer. That’s not what Omni has been, nor will it be.

But that necessarily limits our target selections. So we make the best decisions we can within the rules.
This was met with broad approval by my guildmates. And within CSG, too. And that IS the reason that KT is off the table for us for now (except on repops).

But Pint, your reply speaks volumes regarding the raid scene on the server. The very fact that you cannot imagine someone doing something out of principle, thereby needing to map another (baser) motivation onto it is very telling.

But you've got NO business trying to divine intentions. You're dead wrong on this one.
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