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Old 03-23-2016, 11:45 PM
Tradesonred Tradesonred is offline
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Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
really the playerbase is why the population died, not the staff or velious or 3 years of kunark or anything like that.

just look at who plays still. we're all assholes even to each other. new players don't last long on red.

there's been months during kunark where i crooted more new players to the server than the current server pop, and only like 2 of them still play.
Were you there? We had to harass the staff for a year+ me and like 2 other guys to drop xp loss in pvp, we were the minority, everyone else was telling us to shut up because we were "blue" basically because they were having fun crushing random casuals 10v3 and griefing em off the server. We were party pooping on that.

Rogean and Sirken laughed at us like "This isnt call of duty" until the server hit single digit pop at off hours. They changed it then but it was too late. Its their fault really. I clearly remember some guy on the forums during the first launch weeks going "lol? come kunark some zerg is just going to farm dragons uncontested for months?". We fucking gave em the solution on a silver platter and they chose to ignore it. It was so easy to anticipate what was gonna happen, they dropped the ball. Everything was downhill from there, the xp nerf fiasco "Pops gotta down before its gonna go up". Sirken was smoking crack. Most of the problems stem from that era. Theres only so much potential pop for an EQ emu and all the bad mistakes cut loose alot of people who were burned and never came back.

The worst aspects of the box were allowed to flourish because of bad dev decisions. Thats my point, the server is asshole heavy because they were allowed that griefy, zerg-wins-all playing field for so long that no other kind of crew was allowed breathing room to get settled. When Nihilum came in, it was low pop from then on and you just didnt have the healthy pop needed for multiple serious outfit to get settled. Smaller crews werent allowed to stop that zerging dynamic because lol this isnt call of duty. It made for a boring as fuck experience compared to Rallos. That server culture of lowest path of resistance to join the zerg du jour gelled and that was that. Nothing else than Empilicaust is ever going to come out of red.

Its just a perfect storm of failure where every individual bad factors of the server pulls it toward a downward spiral of fail. The decision to not put in item loot which makes for invincible twinks and no economy is part of those bad individual factors.
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